[EDI-L] Questinon on UCC-128 labels/EDI 856 for pallet-level shipping

Hello Everyone;

I'm doing an EDI integration for EDI856 and UCC-128 labels for retail.
We ship to a customer using pallets. For example, the customer wants 60
cases and wants it packed 20 cases per pallet giving 3 pallets shipped.

When generating the EDI856, do we need to generate 60 UCC-128 labels
for each case and 3 pallet labels, with the pallet referencing the ucc-
128 label for each case.

Thanks

Ask your trading partner.** have done it both ways, one label per carton and one per pallet.

Allen Hoffman
www.ediguyconsulting.com




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From: elan_dorsey <elan_dorsey (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
To: EDI-L (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 3:46:49 PM
Subject: [EDI-L] Questinon on UCC-128 labels/EDI 856 for pallet-level shipping


Hello Everyone;

I'm doing an EDI integration for EDI856 and UCC-128 labels for retail.
We ship to a customer using pallets. For example, the customer wants 60
cases and wants it packed 20 cases per pallet giving 3 pallets shipped.

When generating the EDI856, do we need to generate 60 UCC-128 labels
for each case and 3 pallet labels, with the pallet referencing the ucc-
128 label for each case.

Thanks



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You do exactly what your trading partner tells you to do.

If the cases are broken down at receipt for routing and cross-dock, then each carton needs a label. Each
pallet also needs a label for receiving purposes. Let's say you were shipping pallets of paper to Staples,
and an entire pallet was destined for a store. You would wrap and label each pallet and you would not
have to label each carton. If you were sending 60 pallets (i.e. a trailer) of mixed merchandise to Wal-Mart's
DC to be broken down for store distro, you might wrap the pallets but label each box - and each box would get scanned
when the pallet is broken down. If the entire pallet is cross-docked, then (maybe) the pallet gets scanned and
the pallet does not get broken down. Every one is different - ask your partner for their requirements.

Brian Lehrhoff, EA (blehrhof (AT) cybernex (DOT) net)
Messaging Consultant 201-913-4506
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Subject: [EDI-L] Questinon on UCC-128 labels/EDI 856 for pallet-level shipping

Hello Everyone;

I'm doing an EDI integration for EDI856 and UCC-128 labels for retail.
We ship to a customer using pallets. For example, the customer wants 60
cases and wants it packed 20 cases per pallet giving 3 pallets shipped.

When generating the EDI856, do we need to generate 60 UCC-128 labels
for each case and 3 pallet labels, with the pallet referencing the ucc-
128 label for each case.

Thanks



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Elan,



Your question has opened an interesting conversation on the following
topics:



EDI 856 compliance

As others have stated, you must comply with the specification laid out by
your customer. Many times a customer will have multiple formats, i.e. SOTI,
SOPI, SOTIP, etc. The specifications may vary by supplier type (hard line
vs. apparel), location (domestic vs. international) or other criteria. An
understating of the customer specifications and communicating with the EDI
compliance coordinator should clarify your requirements.



Container Marking

The customer normally will have requirements container marking. These
markings assist in the logistics and distribution process. These marking
include: ship from / to address, PO information, item #, quantity, GTIN,
license plate (SCC18) and others. The customer can require some of this
information to be encoded in bar codes and / or RFID chips. This is
normally covered in the EDI and packaging requirements.



How can the supplier benefit?

The customer requirements outlined above can be expensive to implement. EDI
with a UCC-128 / ASN module is an investment. Properly configured, this
investment can produce a quick ROI. Finding ways to improve efficiency,
lower / eliminate charge back and reduce costs is paramount to realize this
return.





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Regards,



Todd LaBonte

Phone: 231-933-7212

Fax: 231-933-7236

todd.labonte (AT) e-supplylink (DOT) com

www.e-supplylink.com



e-SupplyLink . exceptional Supply Chain Solutions









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Subject: [EDI-L] Questinon on UCC-128 labels/EDI 856 for pallet-level
shipping



Hello Everyone;

I'm doing an EDI integration for EDI856 and UCC-128 labels for retail.
We ship to a customer using pallets. For example, the customer wants 60
cases and wants it packed 20 cases per pallet giving 3 pallets shipped.

When generating the EDI856, do we need to generate 60 UCC-128 labels
for each case and 3 pallet labels, with the pallet referencing the ucc-
128 label for each case.

Thanks





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I know this is going to be a bit left of center for the original question, but....

I'm continued to be amazed that EDI "professionals" continue to raise questions to this group without giving a hint that they have checked with the specific Trading Partner first.* I also amazed that some EDI departments appear to discourage or not want to contact their Trading Partners when they have these and other related questions.

As so many others have posted, you need to contact EACH of your Trading Partners to find out what their requirements are, ESPECIALLY for 856's - because if you can't say or spell*chargebacks, I'm quite*sure accounting department can.

But before that, you probably should (have already) contact*each of them and request the following:

1.* EDI Contact information, including names, email addresses AND phone numbers.* If possible get at least two contacts from the Trading Partner (unless that one contact is a robot who never takes a vacation or has a sick day that turns into 10 days hospitalization because of an accident).* I was about flabbergasted when I started an EDI position several years ago with a company that had about 75+ Trading Partners, yet only had 6 TP contacts listed for use within a department.*

After you have create the list, do yourself a favor - take some time at least twice a year and follow up with that Trading partner to insure your contacts are current.* You'll know what I mean when you just assume you have a current contact for TP XYZ, and 18 mos later when you do have a question, you find out so & so*you emailed comes back undeliverable and the phone call to them reaches someone else who has no idea how to spell EDI, yet alone tell you what happened to that ASN for the largest shipment in company history.

2.* A list of specs for every EDI transaction they want to trade with your company.

3.* Establish transaction transmission guidelines and expectations with your trading partner - how soon does the 856 need to arrive at the company, how soon will the company send a 997 for your outbound transmissions, how soon does the company expect a 997 for the transmissions they are sending you.

In regards to the last section, I'm a stickler to sending and receiving 997's.* If you have any sort of a decent EDI system, your 997's*should be the most simplest and easiest document to set up and in most cases, it just a matter of checking the field that says WE WANT ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS and YES WE WILL SEND YOU ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS.* I look upon this as a matter of professional courtesy - if you are "nice" enough to send me some EDI, I'm going to be nice enough to let you know I got it by acknowledging it.* But on the other side of the coin, if my system is going to generate EDI for you, then I most certainly want to know if you got my document, so please send me a 997 back, EVEN if you are already sending me an 855 or 865.* Usually those ##5 documents are generated several hours to a few days after receipt of the original ##0 document, but if you/they never got the original ##0 document, a ##5 document will never ever get generated in return.

And with that being said, I relenquish the soap box.....

Ken
edispec (AT) yahoo (DOT) com




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From: elan_dorsey <elan_dorsey (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
To: EDI-L (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 3:46:49 PM
Subject: [EDI-L] Questinon on UCC-128 labels/EDI 856 for pallet-level shipping


Hello Everyone;

I'm doing an EDI integration for EDI856 and UCC-128 labels for retail.
We ship to a customer using pallets. For example, the customer wants 60
cases and wants it packed 20 cases per pallet giving 3 pallets shipped.

When generating the EDI856, do we need to generate 60 UCC-128 labels
for each case and 3 pallet labels, with the pallet referencing the ucc-
128 label for each case.

Thanks






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